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I also use the surface for everything I need: I like it a lot and I’ve never had a problem with it. I don’t get the hate, nor why the inaccurate idea that you cannot run things on it persists.


A surface pro 9 with average laptop specs (16GB of ram, 1TB of storage), keyboard and pen costs 2000 + 140 + 80 and that is for the "outdated" model.

At that price it should be exceptional not just good. That is not "hate" but disapointment.


I get the perspective of comparing based on price per unit of specs, but you're not just paying for that. That consideration may not be the main consideration in purchase for everybody. People make subjective assessments that are hard to quantify and compare across individuals.

I guess if you find yourself being disappointed but you otherwise would have liked it, I suggest you may be looking at it the wrong way and missing out on what could work for you.

For me, I think the weight and mobility are important too. I love the stylus and OS. I like the look and there's a bit of a f-you status, not in terms of the money involved which is not that much (especially considering what people drop on gaming rigs, Mac stuff, etc), but because it is a bit different.

I think you're wrong that there's no hate towards Surface: you may not be picking up on it, there definitely is. Maybe people dislike that it's flashy and costly when they expect it should be utilitarian, so it kind of clashes with their expectations in a way that upsets them, and they dislike seeing other people enjoy what displeases themselves. I find it humorous that the same people may see another item, a Mac or whatever, in a different light, despite obvious similarities, and enjoy its flashy costliness. Heh! :)

I encourage you to consider how the people who like and enjoy it see it.

These topics have a way of turning people a bit mad, or at least creating conflict. So please let me turn the heat down a little bit with this olive branch compliment: hey, cool username, are you a mathematician?? :)


Agreed, people can sometimes get too much into minor things like laptop brands.

Yes, I am a mathematician and have a few colleagues who are happily using their surfaces for notes and online teaching. I have seen some "rivalry" with people using iPads instead, but luckily no hate thus far.


Right? Exactly! It's a personal thing, I mean using it is not minor for me, it's super useful, but I don't see the point in challenging others about it. Just like different strokes for different folks, like diffeomorphisms haha :) Did that math joke work? I don't know as i'm not a mathematician. Lucky you haven't seen the hate, it's definitely out there. The refined world of academia must be too pleasant for it haha :)

I also really like how you can just plug whatever keyboard in to it and use a desktop OS on tablet form factor, and it just works.

You ever post your work on here?


I’ve been all in on surface since the sp3. They had me at 3:2.


What makes 3:2 particularly good?


The original surface pro 1 and 2 were 16:9 aspect ratio, an interesting experiment but from surface pro 3 onwards they went with a much more useful 3:2


Or $1099 at Costco + $100 for a 1 TB SSD.




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